Bitter-Sweet Memories
I was born in Upney Hospital in early 1951, the youngest of six children. We lived with our parents in North Street. When I was two our parents split up and my dad eventually 'won' custody of myself and the brother next up to me, four years my senior. Dad had been disabled during the Second World War and, as such, was no longer able to do his job, in civvie land, in the building trade. So he was at home a lot and his passion for breeding birds and small animals became his trade. He had a stall in Brick Lane market in the East End. My aunty ran the Milk Bar, which I believe, was situated in East Street - does anyone remember it? She was the most wonderful pastry maker and her meat pies and sweet pastries were very well known locally. She would always treat me to having a go at rolling out the dough when my dad took me to visit at the bar. I would also get treated to a tasty treat whilst there.
Another of my aunties on my mum's side and her husband, had the Pie and Mash shop and as my dad remained on good terms with Mum's family, I would often go there too with Dad and my brother, and be treated to some delicous 'grub'. "Eat up", Dad would say, "It'll put hairs on your chest". Why I never doubted or questioned that, remains a mystery to this day, haha.
Now for the bitter... Dad had to do odd jobs as and when he could as well as his animal breeding, selling etc. I remember the day he took me to Eastbury House and told me to be a good girl and that he'd see me later. The manor house was imposing and very very daunting to a totally unsuspecting, unprepared, toddler. I was greeted and taken in to the nursery nurses and put with other children of my tender age-group. The nurses all wore uniform and I was scared and felt sick. Meal times were good unless, and until, a nurse made you eat something that you really disliked. I loathe marrow to this day! I remember trying to be a good girl and not cry but being overwhelmed at parting from my dad and watching through one of those huge windows, I think on the first floor, as my dad walked down the long path and away from me and sobbing until I was exhausted.
I do have some happy memories of being in the day care nursery at Eastbury House. Christmas was SO magical. Presents and Father Christmas and party food and singing Carols and Christmas songs and, and, and ... ooo, I'm being transported back there now in my mind!
I remember how we would be lined up on benches and then served a spoonful of Cod Liver Oil which was then swiftly followed by a spoonful of Malt. Everyone loved the Malt, or so we thought! Haha. Most of the nursery nurses were kindness and warmth personified, but one or two were controlling and totally unaware of childrens needs and emotions.
I graduated on to Westbury infant and junior schools in Ripple Road and on from there at eleven, to Eastbury Secondary, the latter I refer, fondly to as Eastbury Academy For Young Ladies And Gentlemen. Haha. I loved school and did quite well, even being awarded a literary prize at one stage.
I would pass Eastbury House thousands of times in the years that followed. Always, as now looking at that photo, it could evoke a headful of memories and mixed emotions.
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RE: RE: Bitter-Sweet Memories
Hi there,
I read your bitter-sweet memories with great interest and a few of your shared memories brought back many good memories to me, especially the pie 'n mash shop that you mention - if it was the one that was situated in Ripple Road, just before you got to the police station, then yes. I would like to add that it used to be a favourite haunt of our family. I remember my father telling me that eating the eels would put hairs on my ches, and I also remember being sent on errands to the shop with a basin to buy the pie, mash and liqueur - wow, that was a fantastic feast to us. I vaguely remember the shop as having tiled walls, but the memory is dimming as far as details of the shop. I too went to Westbury School and then on to Eastbury School for Boys, and boy, have I got loads of good memories of that place. And yes, I remember Eastbury House, but only to look at through the railings and all the stories that went with it, such as it being haunted and it being connected to Guy Fawkes. Whether these stories were true or not still remains a mystery of my childhood days. Wat great memories though, and what great days...
Comment from John Willats on Wednesday, 17th June 2009.
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Hello John
Thanks for taking the time to read my 'memories' and for the reply you posted.
Yes my Aunt did have that very Pie n Mash shop that your family frequented. Yes, the shop was tiled out in the way you describe, along with marble-topped tables etc.
My memories are 'dimming' too unfortunately, but venturing onto this site, a link to it having been sent to me by a close friend who also hails from Barking, and looking at the photos and reading others stories really took me back to another place in time.
So who and what do you remember about Westbury and Eastbury schools then?
Comment from Heather Mathews Nee Saint on Wednesday, 17th June 2009.
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Hi, I lived in Pelham Avenue quite near to Eastbury House & attended Eastbury Infants followed by Ripple Junior then in 1951 age 11 went to Eastbury Girls; I remember the railings that separated the boys from the girls at Eastbury Secondary; where the braver of the two sexes used to congregate at break times. It was a great school and I made the most of my time there, being an active member of the netball/rounders teams. Some of the girls that I remember are June Thorpe, June Copping, Dulcie Longley, also in the teams; others that stick in my memory are Patricia Atkins who lived in Sterry Road and Brenda Matthews lived in Pelham Avenue. It would be great to catch up with anyone who remembers me.
Comment from Rita Ovenden Nee Edwards on Monday, 27th September 2010.
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Just to put the record straight, "The Milk Bar" was number 89 East Street and in the 1960s was renamed "The Tower Coffee Bar". It drew its theme from the church tower and Captain Cook who had connections with Barking. My family owned the business from the 1940s through to 1965. As I am not related to the writer I think there is some confusion with the cafe opposite Barking Station in Station Parade which is where East Street ends. My mother ran the business for my uncle and she was an exceptional cook. During the rationing years the business did a huge trade in pastries etc. It was not generally known that the business also ran the old open market cafe, the Barking Park cafeteria, Mayesbrook Park cafe, the North Thames Sports ground pavilion in East Ham and catered for functions at the Dukes Head, East Ham. When the "Tower" opened it was only the second expresso coffee east of Soho, the first being in Hornchurch. Those of you who enjoyed an icecream or lolly from the hut by Barking Park lake were very likely served by me.
Comment from Robin Holland on Sunday, 31st October 2010.
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Thanks for all the comments.
Robin how nice of you to add your info too. Thanks for that. I was very young when my dad used to take me into The Milk Bar around 3/4 years old, which would have been mid 50s. My aunty was called Cis and would always be out the back making and rolling pastry. So she must have worked with/for your family then. I remember a very smart, upright gentleman, with receding hair. He would always acknowledge me and he and my dad would chat for a while. I seem to remember my dad telling me that he was the owner but I'm not too sure. Would that be your dad? There was also a lovely lady in the Milk Bar that used to make a fuss of me and she used to give me dolls that she had knitted clothes and dressed. Would this have been one of your family members do you know. My aunt Cis also used to work in the cafe in Barking Park and the same gentleman would sometimes be there and he would always offer my brother and I an ice-lolly or ice-cream. Wonderful. To this day I have never, ever tasted anything quite as delicious as the banana flavoured lollies and the spearmint lollies that were sold in the cafe.
This was of course, so many years ago but if by chance any of those people are still with you, it would be wonderful to pass on my gratitude and thanks for the kindness shown towards me.
My aunty Cis celebrated her 100 birthday last year and is still as fit as a fiddle. Bless her
Comment from Heather Mathews-Nee Saint on Thursday, 20th January 2011.
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Hello Heather
The owner was my Uncle Major, a tall man as you remember. My father was called Irvine and a lot shorter than his brother. My mother's nickname was Bobbie. Cis was the Head Cook and it is wonderful to know that she is still with us. Please remember me to her. Only my sister Wendy and I are left.
My Uncle had no children of his own and wanted me to keep the business going. My mother did not want me to because she felt the long hours and hard work was not suitable for a young man. She was right of course and my sister and I went on to do other things, eventually running our own very different businesses.
I have lived in Kent since 1973 and have fond memories of Barking and its people. Barking had been badly bombed during the war and the 50's were hard times for everyone but the spirit of the Eastenders was incredible.
Comment from Robin Holland on Thursday, 17th February 2011.