Memories Of Southall 1941 1966

A Memory of Southall.




I was born at 12 Lyndhurst Ave Southall on January 1941. My parents moved into this property in the late 30s. I remember a bit of the war when I was about three or four as we had a shelter in the back garden as we run into it when the siren was heard. Also I did not see it being carried out, but the iron railings around the Avenues islands was removed and also around Southall Park to be melted down for Military use. Just to add, Lyndhurst Ave was one of the entrance to the A.E.C ( Building of London Buses ) many workers used it daly. I also remember that with a friend we made an effigie of Guy Fawkes for the 5th Nov and asked for a penny for the guy in the A.E.C. Grounds near the railway bridge a bit cheeky. I also remember a rag and bone man with his horse and cart came down the avenue and gave me a baby chick for old clothes. It grew up and to become a house pet for a while but thought it best to move it to next door that had a few chickens.

My first school was North Road Infant and Junior and later to Dormers Wells Second Modern. I don't remember much of the years at North Road School other than being in the school choir as a record was made, I think it was pretty poor. It was about this time transport was by the trolley bus, before having a bike. I used to get on the bus or walk to the Odeon and join the queue for the saturday morning pictures. The times at Dormers Wells School was generally good times I did like some of the subjects such as wood work, technical drawing, metal work ( forge ), allotment, and played cricket for the school. I didn't have school dinners, the canteen was at the end of the grounds and I remember the smell of the cooking it was near the cricket nets. On one winter a large ice slide was made by the boys in the play ground, good fun with no Health and Safety Regulation then. During those years I played with friends around the Midlesex golf coures, under the viaduct Hanwell, near the River Brent, Southall Park near the disused paddling pool ( full of rainwater, a bit green ), putting green, and spent a lot of time when the funfair was in town, The Three Bridges Windmill Road, Southall outdour swimming pool, Heston swimming pool and Ruislip lido. Playing out with no contact with your parents, but not a thing to worry about, what a change to present times. At my last year at Dormers, I went with the school on holiday to Switzerland (Interlaken) by coach and train. After leaving school I kept in touch by going to the youth club. It was managed by a man, his name I cannot rember but he did work at the A.E.C. and we have a chat at times as he walked by my home to work.

My first job (1958) was with Southall Borough Council, Civil Engineering Department. Over a period of time I travelled to work first by bike, then by scooter, and soon change to a motor bike ( my two other friends had the same type of motor bike as my Ambassador 250cc Villiers Twin-Engined ) and finally by car. It was 1959 the mini was launched and was shown in a car showroom in South Road. I was not impressed with the sliding windows by hand, the wire to open the door and the long gear shift. It vastly improved as time past. One of my working colleague had a BMW Issetta it was fun to be in. During my time with S.B.C. and being able to get around the borough it was noteable of the volume of imigrants living at various roads south of the broadway, more than one family lived in one house, some working at day and others at night for the Wolfe Rubber Company, it is believed that the firm bought many properties. I left S.B.C. at 1960 to work for a Consulting Engineers at Vicroria London.

Just to add a few things we did in the late fifties and early sixties. We would meet at the The Dump ( coffee shop ) in the High Street almost opposite Avenue Road, it was quite small and there was iron spiral steps to the first floor . It was an art to carry coffee up it without spilling it so bottle or can drinks was the norm, the room was also a bit dark. Across the road there was a music shop where we used the listening booths before bying a viny record. We played snooker above Burtons Uxbridge, darts at various pubs, we had our hair cut at a new shop at Hayes and had made to measure suites to go with winklepikers shoes. I played cricket for Southall for a while. I bought my cricket bat,my snooker cue, and a set darts at a small shop opposite the Odeon. With a number freinds went on Saturdays night to The Boat House, Kew, the main live rock band was Cliff Bennett and the rebel rousers.

My girlfriend and future wife lived at 5, Park View Road opposite to the Holy Trinity Church where we were both christened there and then married there 1963. Before we were married we look at properties to let but not successful. We were very lucky that we were able to live at number 5, with our own kitchen/dinner/lounge and a bedroom. With my father in law we at times had a drink at the Red Lion just over the road. We saved up for a deposit on a house for about three years and left Southall at 1966. It was sad to leave Southall as I have had 25 good years there, it was once a great place. It was just after a few years that both our parents decided to move. The properties in Park View one was built during the Gorgian period and the other Victorian, both great buildings all demolished for flats.


Eric Wedderburn.


Added 04 March 2014

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Hello Eric,
Just heard from a classmate from southall who read my blog on this site,i opened it to my suprise and saw your write up.im now living in kent ,i moved here when i was diagnosed with cancer,but that was 2010,and im still doing ok.i would love to see any old pictures of our days together on the ambassador bikes.if you had any please send them to my e mail.roy67james@gmail.com.i hope babara(Tyler) you and your family are all keeping well.id love to hear from you,we shared many hours together years ago.
Kind regards Roy McClean.
Hi Eric
I also lived at 5 park View Road (aged 16) with my parents and 7 siblings. we moved from a 3 bed house on the limetrees estate in 1968 or 69 to the larger house in park view. We lived there until 1970 when we moved to Bracknell. Be interested to know if you ever heard or had any spooky things happen from the second flight of stairs to the top two bedrooms.
Sandra Lane
I was very interested in your article entitled “ Memories of Southall 1941 “ and whilst we have never met a number of your memories are identical to my own. I will use your comments to recall my similar memories.
I was born at my grandparents house 81 Greenford Avenue, Southall in November 1941 and we also had a bomb shelter in the back garden. I also remember the rag and bone man coming to our street but whilst I did not receive a baby chicken my grandparents had their own chickens in the back garden which gave us regular eggs and one was killed for our Xmas lunch. My father was a Pilot Officer in Bomber Command who was killed before I was born and I went to Ealing College which was a private school paid for by the RAF Benevolent fund. Our neighbour had twin grandsons named Ken and Derek Hewston and whilst Derek went to Southall Grammar School Ken originally went to Dormers Wells Secondary School before going to Southall Technical School so you may have known him. My fathers parents owned the Palace Cafe and confectionery next to the Palace cinema in South Road and I used to go there after school for my daily chocolate treat. In 1954 the Quakers Oats sponsored Around Britain Amateur Cycle race finished at Spikes bridge Sports Ground which was at the end of our road and I was smitten and decided to build my own racing bike. I had a paper round from a newsagent in Havelock Road including collecting the money on Sunday morning and also a green grocery round on Saturday morning and was able to purchase the various components for my racing bike from the Vic Humphrey cycle shop in Lady Margaret Road. Used to cycle to my school from Southall to Hamilton Road near Ealing Common a distance of about 3 miles which included the steep section of the Uxbridge Road at Hanwell. I also used to go the Saturday morning pictures at the Odeon cinema and used to go the Middlesex Golf course to the collect newts from the ponds. I moved to Hayes when I was thirteen years old but I continued to visit Southall on a regular basis. I left school in 1958 to work a draughtsman at Rockware Glass and originally had a 250cc James Commodore motor cycle to soon changed to a 500cc Velocette Venom motor cycle which was able to do 'The Ton'. My first car was a minivan which I purchased before I passed my driving test which was planned for January 1963 but had to be cancelled due to the heavy snowfall on Xmas 1962 so I was unable to use it and had to use the bus. I used to go to the Little Dump coffee bar and also Dormers Wells Youth club and to the weekly dance at Burtons in Uxbridge where Brian Poole and the Tremeloes played and also a weekly dance at the Community Centre. I was also christened at Holy Trinity Church and married there in 1964 and used to attend the cubs and scouts which were held at the Holy Trinity Hall in Lady Margaret Road.

Hi Eric

I lived with my parents at No 18 Lyndhurst and Peter Harman, Ronald ? and Bernard Shinn borrowed your cricket gear to take up to the park for a game. Have you still got it?

Roger Cooney.

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