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I am currently researching my family tree and wonder if anybody in Hooton Roberts might be related to me. My great-great-grandfather Joseph Simpson was born in Conisbrough 1839 and married a lass called Harriett (I don't know her maiden name). According to the Census she was born in Hooton Roberts in 1840. She and Joseph married and lived in Hooton Roberts from about 1863 to about 1883. The ...see more
My first introduction to Fairbourne I think was in 1953 (the same week that we heard that Everest had been conquered and the Coronation). As a child resident of St Christopher's Railway Orphanage in Derby, we went camping for the first time ever. The site was in a field by Fford Yr Ysgol (Google map search). We camped in ex-army bell tents, I think there were at least four tents, boys, girls, staff and food/equipment. ...see more
I am trying to trace William George (born ?Sept 1928) who was born and brought up in Tilbury. His mother was a widow and he played the piano. William was called for National Service in spring/summer 1947 and my mum thinks he went in the Navy. Her last address for him was in Lisbon (Jan 1948). Can anyone remember him? He is my dad.
My father must have arrived in Church Crookham around 1942. About a half dozen Canadian officers were quartered in an extremely 'modern' house, called The White House. My father, a young Captain, always spoke of that house with something approaching awe. For some reason, the sanitary fixtures fascinated him: wash basins in individual bedrooms, something unknown in North America. His bath had tiles ...see more
I was born at number 8 Woodbine Terrace; in attendance was nurse Brinklow the local midwife and Dr Gleeve. My parents were Jim and Vera Cusack. Just after the begining of the war my mother, sister and grandparents moved to Fenny Stratford to be near my auntie Doris (mother's sister) and to be away from the dangers of London; they came from Dagenham and Hackney in the East ...see more
Having moved several times as a child we were offered our first council house on the new estate in Hough Green, we were one of the first families to move into Phillip Road and I can remember my late mother saying it looked like a palace. It was their home for many years. I went to St Bede's Primary School before at 13 years of age moving to St John Fisher and St Thomas More Secondary Modern. I left school in 1960. ...see more
For anyone who may have any doubts about Sunderland being bombed put it to rest. I was born in 1935 in Hendon. I vividly recall the day war was declared September 3rd 1939 (my birthday). The next five years were spent in the air raid shelter in the back yard or curled up under the stairs. The bombers blew the hell out of every where except what they were aiming for (the dockyards). Every morning we would go around the ...see more
I was born in Kilby in 1943 in the house across from the Dog and Gun (I think it was called the Swan or maybe Black Swan?). When I was about a year or so old my parents moved to Foston (Great Peatling Lodge) and that is where I grew up and went to school in Countesthorpe and then on to Guthlaxton. Now living in the States and get homesick for Leicestershire.
I am looking to find information on Rose Cottage, my father in law's family lived here in and around the 1930s, not sure what date from or to. I am looking for old photographs of this house and any information relating to it. I would be extremely grateful, as it would help with information for family tree.
I hold the Lordship of the Manor of Tilstock and have many maps and papers relating to its history. The Manor covers 2550 acres (just over 4 square miles) and has existed since before the Norman Conquest, when it was part of the lands of Queen Aldgyth, widow of Gruffydd ap Llewelyn and second wife of King Harold II. It includes Prees Heath as far as the boundary of Brown Moss on its Eastern side and ...see more
My father passed away in 1955. I returned from National Service in Germany in time to visit him in Winchester hospital, sadly my older brother Ron was a regular soldier serving in Hong Kong and could not get back in time to see our father but was one of the pall bearers at his funeral in the parish church. If indeed it is the one at the back of the Rec, I called in the area on holiday from Australia in 1998 ...see more
I was born in 1950, in the front room of 168, Wellington Road, Eccles. This was my grandparents' house. My mother, Barbara, worked as a telephonist for the GPO, at their exchange on Half Edge Lane. My grandad, Lionel Payne, was a railwayman driver, at Patricroft sheds, whilst my uncle Leonard Payne was an accident inspector for the railway, later rising to become area controller. My grandad rented a small ...see more
Just at the top of the photo, and out of camera, was a pub called the Railway Tavern. Locally it was known as the 'Top House'. Around the back lurked a bookies runner, and I was sent by my grandad on many occasions, to 'put a bet on' for him. I was always told to watch out for policemen, before going down the ally. The runner was a spiv of a man, who would disappear once I had handed over the bet money, ...see more
I remember being taken to Peel Green one Sunday, and witnessed the opening of the new bridge over the canal. On that day, the bridge was closed to all motor traffic, and thousands of people walked across it, quite a unique experience. Try doing it today! There was a carnival atmosphere about the whole day.
I can't be 100% sure but this is a great likeness of myself and my brother Rob... I have fished this swim for large roach since the early 1990s and we still fish the weirpool to the present day. I have had many happy memories here and have some nice photos of truly outstanding catches. I have also met some lovely old boys there and have enjoyed hearing their tales of whoppers caught in the days of way back when the river here used to be tidal. They even used to have flatfish competitions!!
Just after the war my father (Harry 'Ginger' Scott) and a friend (Ralph Phillips married to Maggie Mullins, Eastleigh's scrap merchant) built a small caravan which they towed with our old Ford 8 to the caravan park at Highcliffe, which in those days was still in Hampshire, a movement of the county lines I only noticed on this site. Most weekends we had spare the three of us, Mum (May Eleanor, nee Butcher), ...see more
I remember going down to the Rec a million times, but mainly remember the soccer ground on the right, the bandstand, the back of the WVS where I had lunch for a few pence because Mum was at work in Pirelli's, and the the 'invasion' when the Yank troops were camped on the Rec. We would wander on the Leigh Road pathway hunting for 'lost' coins, a very lucrative foraging trip, and occasionally a comic or two. I ...see more
I remember a school colleague either at Chamberlayne Road or Peter Symonds (Winchester). His name was Tony Lawford, any relation to you please? I was born at 15 Factory Road in 1936 and lived there till I went up to London to work at New Scotland Yard, then 2 years National Service in Germany and Cyprus (leading up to the Suez 'crisis'). I came back to the Yard after demob but then moved into cinema management with ...see more
In my last two years at the High School six of us girls from there camped by the Ythan river at Gight Castle, they were Jeannie Smith, Doreen Ruddiman, Nora Henderson, Isobel Argo, my sister and I, Margaret Argo. We had two tents and took turns of cooking, shopping in Methlick, and drawing water from the Ythan to boil for drinking. We exlored the castle daily when we were not the duty two, and one night we ...see more
18th July 1959 my honeymoon was spent in Bray, County Wicklow. We stayed with Mrs Madge McGrath, a cousin of my father (Joseph Devlin). My strongest memory is the friendliness of the people, and my husband enjoyed the Guinness.
I along with my brothers, Stewart and Graeme, our parents Allen and Sheila lived our early childhood at 15 McGregor Drive. All went to the original primary school and then onto Creetown Secondary. Many happy memories of my childhood in and around Minnigaff. My Grandparents (Jim and Sally McCreath) lived in Corviesel Avenue Newton Stewart. We moved to England in 1961. I now live in Cyprus. It would be nice to hear from any old school friends from those early days. Ian Emery
Now then, what year was Stanhope cut off on all sides, Crawley had snow almost up to the telephone line, going to Frostley was impossible, in fact it was about 6 days that we were stuck in for, latest jobs were snow clearing from most footpaths. I remember Mr Fleaming and Mr Corner and oh yes Mr Pervis from Hartlepool (are you still in Hartlepool?). You know me, I was a small kid, I was in Crawley ...see more
now then what year was stanhope cut off on all sides crawley had snow allmost up to the telethone line going to frostley was immpossible in fact it was about 6 days we were stuck in for latest jobs snow clearing most footpaths but mr fleaming and mr corner oh yes mr pervis from hartlepool {are u still in hartlepool}you no me small kid was in crawley house lived on the top dorm shall i tell u who ...see more
Please can anyone help? Do you remember a general shop in Hosier Street on the left-hand-side going from St Mary's Butts in the name of F W Hawkins before the civic offices were built?
I was born in Ewell in 1945 and lived with my family at 156 Banstead Road South from 1950 to 1966. My first school was Miss Attrel's at the top of Station Road opposite the garage. I used to walk from home and back although a bit later I caught the 213 bus from the station to the top of Downs Road. We used to go to Belmont every Saturday in my grandfather's 1936 Hillman Minx for my dad to go to some of the ...see more
I was born in Draycott Road, Chiseldon, short walk away from the camp. My early memories are of the Sunday morning church parades of the different regiments who were stationed there. The troops, in full military dress, along with the regimental band would march from the camp to the village church a mile or so away. Most of us village kids would run behind enjoying the music. Chiseldon was a very busy village in ...see more
I used to fish here quite a bit in the late 1960s. It was not far from the bus station.
I was confirmed at St Mary's in 1970 and I was also married in this church in 1979.
I used to go to this lovely swimming pool. I learnt to swim and dive here, and used to dive off the spring board.
I was christened at this church. I was also a choir boy there. I was a choir boy there from 1965 to 1967.
I thought the picture of me as a toddler in a wooden paddle boat was taken at Southwold, and now 60 years on it was Southwold. We only went there from Norwich for the odd trip but I am pleased to find this c1955 picture in the Frith pictures.
I moved to Burnt Oak in May 1940, to 84 Fortescue Road. I was 4. My memories are like a batch of video clips, as follows: Moving in. Removal men trying to get a wardrobe into the front bedroom by hauling it up from the outside. Workmen deposited a load of bricks and planks on the green outside our house, to build a blast shelter. We kids built a den out of these materials, with loose ...see more
Does anyone recall the name of the Timber Yard near to the Police Station before it became Travis Perkins?
From leaving Bookham I moved to Dorking where I worked for the same family at Dorking High Street, Earlswood Lakes and their Wimpy bar at Box Hill, it was good. I lived over the shop, the tobacconist, and I know and love Dorking.
I used to live in Cherry Tree Cottage, Warden Point in 1930, my father was Jock Martin, a sergeant in the R.A.F. stationed in Eastchurch. My mother was Phylis Woollett, daughter of Frank Woollett, mine host of the Crooked Billet. After the death of my mother in 1934 we moved from Warden to Eastchurch and resided at the bottom of the village in the house on bend on the Laysdown road by the old village hall. I have ...see more
It's only roughly 1955 because we lived there from 1944 and moved to Little Bookham but I always remember Mum used to go to, as she would say, Absolems, which I remember well. I knew St Nicholas church then, we always went to church. I had friends down the Lower Road where we lived. I went to St Nicholas School. Would you know Gillian Lee or Gillian Longhurst? It would be good to get in touch.
I lived in Great Bookham until 1955, then lived at Maddox Lane, Little Bookham. It was a lovely place to live by the common, but I had great friends in Great Bookham, I wonder if you know them. My memories are walking and cycling over the common and walking along the path at the bottom of the garden to Effingham by the railway track, we used to pick primroses etc and cowslips on the banks. It woud be geat to be in touch with anyone who lived there at the time.
I was an evacuee to Parkham in 1943 and would love to hear from anyone who might have been there at that time. I had very happy memories of Parkham and attending the village school. If anyone has memories of this period please contact me. My email address is alecnav@hotmail.co.uk
I was born in Congresbury in 1951 and lived there until I joined the army in 1966. I have very fond memmories of growing up there, one of the fondest was riding the strawberry train from Cheddar to Yatton. My uncle ran the the local coal business and had his coal delivered at Congresbury station. I attended the local primary school and the local choir under the direction of the Reverent Cran who we all ...see more
I am trying to trace some details about the Richards family, in particular Edward Richards, in 1851 he lived at 70 Treswithian Downs and in 1861 he moved to 25 Treswithian Downs, he was a miner. He had a son, William Morley Richards, who is my grandfather, he lived at 25 Treswithian Downs, he was aged 13 at that time. My grandfather had a sister called Elizabeth Ann Richards, Philipa ...see more
I spent most of my childhood in Tarves, my father was James Argo the bank manager. I remember cycling all around the grounds at Haddo House, attending Evensong at the private chapel on a Sunday night. I remember Duthie Webster and the Christmas parties they gave for the children of the village. I remember singing in the choir at Craigdam Church. I remember the Presley brothers, George the butcher, and Charlie the ...see more
In 1938 my father was landlord of the Red Lion - I was just 6 years old but remember it clearly. I have a photo of my father standing on the front steps and the frontage is still clearly recognisable. At the time, all the lighting was by oil lamps and you had to go down a steep flight of stairs into the cellar to draw every pint of beer. My father also organised the village cricket team. I attended the village school and have very happy memories of the time there.
My relation Daniel Price and his wife Ellen lived at 2 New Street, Pantygog in 1911. I don't suppose anyone thinks they're related to them, or knows anything about the family?
My mum's best friend's father owned a cottage - Bryn Siriol- near Rhes-Y-Cae in the 1950s and 60s and some of my happiest childhood memories are of our annual holidays there. I remember going down to the farm (Black Lion Farm) in the village to get milk and water (no running water in Bryn Siriol!) from Mrs Reece. She had 2 sons - Peter and Tom. I think Tom may still be living in Rhes-Y-Cae. I ...see more
I went to the Green Dragon with my aunt for a holiday, I was about 10 years old and thought it very grand. In later years when I was in my 20s I took my mother there. We had a very nostalgic holiday touring around the Malvern Hills and Shakespeare country. It was a happy time.
Fond memories..attending the church with my best friend Jean when we were at school, then in later years in our teens, showing off new outfits that we had shopped for in Croydon. So many weddings, including mine in 1960...so much has happened since then....
ok you loti do remmber some ofyou stanhope was not that bad their were places that you could not get out like acliffe near darlington {mr corner}and if i remmber 1 in middelsboro }mr pervis} you no me but you dont know wereim at i also know a few facts like who stole cars in stanhope if i remmber at least 2 cars bet the locals were happy when it closed down wish you would meet up some day you know scare stanhope day ...see more
My great-grandfather, Richard Gillett, was an Alderman and laid the foundation stone for this building. I don't suppose that there is a photo of the Foundation Stone anywhere, is there? A member of our family has the engraved silver trowel and gavel which were presented to him at the time. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sheilaweston/gillett/Gillett\%20Family\%20Photographs/richardgillett.html Sheila Weston, nee Trenbath
Having written the last article on children's matinees so many memories flitted through my brain, so I had to write them down! And no doubt I shall add to them over the weeks.
Going back to the old Corona at Felling, I just remembered that I was very young fresh out of the Navy and full of my own importance! And didn't know anything! My first day there was hard to forget, I went into the ...see more
It’s so strange that you can remember so many things from early childhood, all those years ago! And it still feels clear as if it was yesterday and they bubble up into your brain after lying there undisturbed in the pits of time with no effort from you..,such as finding a jar of Pond’s Vanishing Cream on the dressing table in Mother's bedroom and thinking, ok I will try it out! Stripping off and ...see more
My family name was Brewer and it seemed we went hop picking for ever. The last time was 1958. The following year my grandmother became ill and we could not go anymore. I was 12 the last time I went. I have written a story of my time spent on Buston Manor Farm and I would love to share it with anyone who was there at the same time. This would be between 1945 and l958. My grandmother's name ...see more
My grandfather worked at Murex down by the river and I loved being able to pick him up from work on the odd occassion with my late Mum, Dad and younger sister as we would be allowed to see any boats passing. I still love the sight of water ways today and I am nearly 50 years of age, I adore the River Thames and the homely boats on its water in London that I see on my journeys with National Express. ...see more
I was sent to Southborough from London in September 1939 and was billeted with a lovely couple, Mr and Mrs Brown who lived at Holden Corner. I was with another girl evacuee named Audrey and she and l just loved the chickens and fishing (with jam jars) in the pond. We went to the village school, bought Tizer and ice-cream from the shop, and I seem to remember going to the church ...see more
I visited Carlton Scroop with my grandmother, Elizaberth Foottit. Her sister was Rose Helena West, they were all born in Hough on the Hill. Harrold Footit, whose memorial is in the church, was my great cousin. Elizabeth was born in 1875, John in 1873. The West and Footit families all came from Hough. I have photos of Elizabeth and John in 1900.
My grandparents owned the croft Hillhead of Kintore, my grandfather James Kerr Argo was the manager of Kemnay quarries and rode the old road to Kemnay each day to work. I have many childhood memories of staying there.They had a well in the garden, my grandma kept hens and bees and had a herb garden and knew all the herbal cures. One Argo aunt taught at Kemnay School, the other at Woodside, Aberdeen, both sons ...see more
I was brought up in Aberkenfig, we lived in Sandfields Road, behind the then fire station. I well remember the school in Tondu and the infants' school in Pandy Road. We often as kids sat on the wall outside Pandy to listen to the choirs practising. I remember the Welfare Hall, the Lyric cinema, the youth club, Tondu NCB sports day, and the many friends I had, some of whom I can remember but not their names at my age ...see more
My brother and I were evacuees for 2 years. We stayed with a wonderful family, Mr and Mrs Braithwait and their daughter Eileen. My brother George went back many times as he loved it there, as he had got very on with a 5-year-old boy and they were always together. My brother tragicallydied in 1954. I went back to Gristhorp about 12 years ago to see this little boy (his name was Bobby, I have ...see more
Just after the war Dad, Mum and I would travel every other weekend to visit aunts and uncles and cousins on our Norton motorbike and sidecar. We usually based our visit with Aunt Flo and Uncle Stan (a wartime despatch rider, now back with his wife), they lived at 27 Wellington Road at the top end of a steep road about 100 metres up the hill, and the amazing thing was their Golden Retriever would bark ...see more
It is worth looking closely at the people in the pictures within the Frith Collection, as you never know who you might recognise. Within this photograph you can see a couple of ladies sat on a bench, and in the distance a man with two children, a boy and a girl. The lady sat on the bench on the left is my mother Molly, sat next to my grandmother. The man in the distance is my father ...see more
My grandma lived in Batley Carr and we lived in Leeds. I can remember visiting Dewsbury as a little girl with Mum and Dad. There was a market in Dewsbury on a Saturday and I can remember visiting an ice cream parlour. I was delighted to be reminded the ice cream palour was Caddy's which sold delicious ice cream in little white bowls if I remember correctly. What a treat it was to be taken there.
My family came to live in Ottershaw in 1952 when I was 5 years old. My father, Charles Coulson, had moved us from the North of England owing to lack of work since his de-mob from the RAF. He was employed as a chauffeur/gardener by Mr W King of 'Tudor Cottage', Coach Road. We lived in 'Oak Cottage', Coach Road, owned by Mr King. That came with the job. As a young boy having just moved from the side of the ...see more
I can remember so many old shops in Salfords. My favourite must be the newsagent which sold sweets and bottles of pop by the door. It also sold some toys and cards. The greengrocer's had a lovely old silver till which I can just about remember before decimilisation. My first bike came from Pratt's the cycle shop. It was gold with white tyres and I treasured it. The chemist was very old fashioned and owned by ...see more
Does anyone remember the old swimming baths at Redhill? I started swimming there in the 1970s when it was still a Victorian building. The steps in the pool were of stone and the changing rooms were around the poolsides with wooden doors. You could pay to have a slipper bath! There was a young lady who gave you a box to put your clothes in and you had to remember the number on it to get it back ...see more
Uncle Tim owned the left side of Tremmor Cottage, next to St Nicolas Church, as a holiday home. He would let it out privately to friends and family. Subsequently he changed his holiday venue to the house next door - Firside Cottage. Unfortunately he took up permanent residence there a few years ago. Thus my last family holiday in Downderry was six years ago. However, some of us did visit Downderry for a ...see more
I started at Hernville Road School when I was 5 in 1937 and when war broke out in 1939 we happened to be staying with my grandfather so I didn't get evacuated with the school. BUT prior to that, I have a vivid memory of being assembled and waiting in the school hall with an eiderdown fastened up with a leather belt with my name and number (1018) and a small suitcase. I had no gas mask because ...see more
I lived in Frith Road, Croydon and was in the same class as some of my friends who went on the trip to Norway. My parents couldn't afford the price for the trip (at that stage their were seven of us!). I went with the Mitcham Road Surrey ACF on summer camp instead. A strange thing happend whilst at camp one night, everybody was assembled and the air disaster was announced, I remember being very sad at ...see more
So what, you got the cane, you deserved it, you were a baben. The locals semed to hate us, the school was hated by most of the local villagers, we brought them crime, burglary, theft, the lot. Was I glad when I left, too right. Bye bye Stanhope, hello freedom. How many of the lads who were in Stanhope re-offended, I bet you there are loads locked up right now, in HMP Durham or other prisons in the UK. I think ...see more
My first memory of Tanygrisiau goes back to my being aged five and being taken there by my parents, Lloyd George and Catherine Owen. Dad's family had lived and worked at Tanygrisiau since almost the beginning of the slate mining industry. Dad was very proud of his slate mining ancestors, his great-great-great-grandfather James Williams being the Welsh partner in Ffestiniogs first quarry the Diphwys. My dad's ...see more
Walter George PONTET (born 1867 Dublin, eldest son of my composer great-grandfather Henry Pontet and his wife Elizabeth Eugenie nee FLEURY) was a teacher at the Royal School, Portora, from at least 1901 and still there at the time of the 1911 census. I am aware that, from at least 1914, he had moved to St Columba's College in Rathfarnham, but I am lacking any real information about his time ...see more
Now living in Australia, when we think of England we think of the Brave Old Oak when it was kept by Tony and Sylvia Hackett. What a magical Inn, what a magnificient couple, they represented everything unique about English Innkeeping. Friends tell us it is now a pigstye patronised by yobs, a disgrace to a lovely English Market Town
I was born in Musbury Road at the bottom of Tor Hill and spent 5 years with Tor as my back yard; my name is still chiselled in the rocks at the top. Anyone remember the Tor Mile race? In 1955 we moved up to 3, Lancaster Avenue, the first of the new batch of Council houses built there. I, too, went to Helmshore County Primary School (55 to 61) and vividly remember the above mentioned Messrs. Jenkins and ...see more
My father Ernest Peter Houghton was chairman of the local council 3 times. He was Labour councillor for over 30 years and was well respected in the community. During one of his terms of office in the early 1960s my mum and dad attended a garden party at Buckingham Palace. We lived in Kintbury Street, I have very fond memories of growing up there, we had great ...see more
My great-great-grandfather owned the barbers on the Crown Bridge many years ago. Does anyone know what it was called?
My Nan was Elsie Lavender and she lived in Glendwr Street. Elsie was born in 1921 to parents Ethel and Bill (William) Lavender. She had an older sister called Connie who passed away at the age of 21 years. She had a younger brother Hayden and a younger sister Maureen (Mary) and Sheila Lavender. Elsie lived in Abertillery from about 1921-c1940s and she then moved to Coventry. Elsie had a cousin Beryl, and a ...see more
I lived by Figges Marsh in Mitcham, just over the border with Tooting from 1948 until 1967. In fact I was born in the house I lived all those years in. I early on discovered the movies and I remember with great pleasure going to the Granada Tooting on a regular basis. The Astoria somebody mentioned, I recall as the fleapit, though they did let me talk my way into X films years before my 16th birthday! But ...see more
This is actually Withnell Fold. I grew up here from 1962 until 1977 when I left to get married. It was a fantastic place to live. My dad Terry West was a maintainence joiner originally, at Wiggins Teape paper mill until it closed. My mum Glenda worked for a while as a cook at the old folks home, which had been built by Thomas Blinkhorn Parke in the early 1800s. He built the mill and the village originally. My sister ...see more
My great-grandfather's name was Woodford and I believe that he was the post master for Whiteparish during the Second World War. I know very little of that side of my family and for myself and my children, I wish to learn more about the Woodfords. If any resident has any details or knows where I might find some it would be much appreciated.
My name is Angie, I was in Warnham Court only for a short while, but I have lasting memories - the grey and burgandy uniform,and walking down to the deer park before breakfast. I haven;t yet found anyone that remembered me. I had a photo taken of me as a Chinese boy dressed for panto. If anyone has one I would love to have it, it would be the only picture I have of me as a child. Warnahm gave me a sense ...see more
I was born in the same bedroom as my father at Penlee Stores, a little shop (now long gone) opposite Penlee House. My grandfather started the business, he was what is termed a hawker. He travelled the Roseland peninsula selling from his horse and cart anything anyone wanted or needed. His name was Stephen James Lidgey, known as Steve Lidgey. When he died, my father Leo Lidgey took over the ...see more
