May And Baker (Dagenham East)

A Memory of Dagenham.

The May and Baker factory, close to the railway station at Dagenham East was once one of the largest factories in the area. The company was best known for developing the drug quinine to combat malaria, often simply referred to as M&B tablets. It manufactured and distributed all sorts of chemicals, agrochemicals and pharmaceuticals such as: anti-histamines for allergies, barbiturates for sedatives, opiates like morphine and cocaine for pain relief, antibiotics to combat infection plus other things such as photographic products and plastics.
The factory covered a vast area running beside the railway line all the way down to what is known as the “Chase” and the fringes of Elm Park. The sprawling complex comprised many different buildings; process plants, packaging buildings, effluent treatment plant, research buildings, and offices. The place was like a small town, having its own power station and boilers to produce steam and generate electricity, an old farmhouse used as a drawing office, two large restaurants, its own fire station and fire engine, an ambulance and sick-bay, insurance/travel office, a stage used for amateur productions, a pristine bowling green and large selection of sports pitches.

My father Stan Wilson joined May and Baker in about 1953 as a pipefitter welder in the engineering department. He fabricated much of the pipework in the anti-biotics plant which produced one of the most profitable pharmaceutical products of the time. Later he was part of the shift maintenance team ("shift fitters") responsible for keeping the factory running 24/7 which was important because it was essential to keep some processes running for several days without interruption, to achieve the right result. The fitters used a small fleet of trade bicycles to carry their tools and parts to where they were needed, such was the distance between different parts of the factory.
I joined M&B around 1973 as part of the shift maintenance team, often working with my father, and stayed until around 1986 when much of the engineering work was taken-over by contractors and I was made redundant.

Sadly, today May and Bakers is gone. Only the perimeter roads, the outlines of the buildings and a few trees around the demolished farmhouse remain.

I will always remember my time there and would love to hear from anyone that has memories of this smelly, dangerous but great place to work.


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I remember M&B photographic chemicals.
Thanks for your comment Nick.
Yes M&B did produce photographic chemicals. I am not certain whether or not they actually manufactured the solution themselves but I recall a small building where photographic chemicals by another company (perhaps another branch of Rhone Poulenc) would be decanted and put into M&B's own bottles. Perhaps an example of "re-branding".
I started working at May & Baker Ltd April 1955 on a Chemical Plant Operative apprenticeship scheme. Later, I became a student chemist working in a number of laboratories until 1961 when I left the Company following a career change. I can still recall the names of over 50 of the chemists and apprentices that I worked with even after all these years. It was a shame that the Company closed down in 2013. I wonder if any of the chemists and fellow apprentices remember me during the 1950s.
Anthony (Tony) Lipman.
Good to see your comment Tony.
I was only a youngster (8) when you started at M&B. My dad joined around that time, probably about 1952 and he was in the engineering construction department. You were off to pastures new before I turned up.
The "Shift Fitters" were allocated work by a "Duty Chemist" on night shifts and I can remember a few names - Norman Fry, Joe Sutton, Mr.Courtney and Jack Gogay - all of whom enjoyed many a cuppa in our workshop!
Alan Wilson.
I do recall the name of Jack Gogay with whom I worked with in the opiates shop. I believe the year I worked there was 1959 and I was analysing the moisture content of codeine phosphate.
You had to ring a bell to be allowed into this building (No 4).
In No 3 Building, I knew Dave Domikin. Bill Westwick and Betty Cronk. Mr Whitehead was the Department Head.
Anthony (Tony) Lipman
Hello Tony,
Yes, we did quite a bit of work in No.4 Building (Opiates), changing valves, repairing pumps and clearing blockages in pipework. Jack Gogay signed our work permits and from memory I think Mr.Whitehead was still in overall charge.
In my early days at May & Baker, lorries would unload raw opium worth millions in tea chests lined with foil and plastic bags outside the building. Inside there was usually the pungent smell of opium poppies or the heady scent of cocaine. Stacks of trays contained crystals drying out and fine white powder covered everything. No wonder the workers in Opiates were always in "high" sprits!
Hope more ex M&B workers will recount their stories on here.

Alan Wilson

Joined M&B 1956. Had experienced M&B 693 (along with Churchill) at the end of the war. London pneumonia. ACD. John Shinner (a real squire from Totnes) was boss. Dr Hersant chief analyst. Played rugby for the co. on Saturday afternoons. Crosby (engineers) Mike Parnell, Dave Gell. David Domikin I knew (more later). He brown coat , me white. I transferred to Research after two years. Worked for Sid Berg. I owe my bench ability to him. Dr Muggleton helped me with mathematics. Graduated from RIC by day release and left M&B 1962 to study for doctorate. Then went up to Oxford on a fellowship and got married. Returned to M&B 1966.
First day back, lunch in the cafeteria. Somebody came up to me and shook my hand. Welcome back Brian, you have done wonderfully well. David Domikin. His kind dignified act has stayed with me for all of my life. I was probably too shocked to make a gracious reply. Left in 1968 to start on a career in business. My R&D facility near Cambridge still pays my salary.
When I worked in ACD (Analytical Control Division), around 1956/7, the Department Head was Mr John Shinner and I believe his secretary was Miss Thelma Colman. Dr Eric Hersant was the Chief Analyst, and his secretary was Mrs Stubbings. Around 1957 I worked for a time in No 7 Building ADD (Analytical Development Department). Mr Cecil Ballard was Department Head and his deputy was Mr Peter Scott. There are many other people that I worked with and I recall around 50 names or so. When I worked in the Opiates Shop (No 4 Building), I sometimes played chess with Dave Domikin and always lost, but I did a bit better when we played cards along with Dave Westwick.
I believe it was in 1956 that there was a May and Baker Family Day in which all employees and their families and as I recall, everyone enjoyed themselves. Unfortunately, this event wasn't repeated as far as I can recall.
I am a Committee member of the Essex Section of the Royal Society of Chemistry and Mr Mike Parnell and a few other May and Baker retired members occasionally attend the events that we put on during the year.
Dr Anthony Lipman.
Hello, I am an archaeologist and I am preparing a historical report on the factory. I have contacted some of you and you have been very helpful.

I just wondered if anyone have any memories of the bowling green, tennis courts, canteen and executive dining room in particular?

Thank you

Zoe
My biggest memory of M&B was that of howling dogs in the night.
Hi all, at the very back of the site if you look at google earth there are two lakes, one has circles in. anyone know what these were?
Hello,
Just looked at Google Earth.
The two lakes you mention were beyond the perimeter fence of the M&B works if I remember correctly.
As a young boy I recall exploring the "Chase" which stretched from the back of M&B to the boundary with Upper Rainham Road, Elm Park. The area was private and I believe owned by the Garrett family who kept horses and had a riding stables. From memory there were some larger deeper lakes on the land (probably created by sand/gravel extraction) and a couple of smaller shallower "ponds" which were roughly circular. I never took much notice but from looking at the Google pics they may perhaps have been bomb craters .

Alan Wilson
My father, Eric Spencer started work at M&B as a trainee architect and then moved into the photography department, where he worked for over 50 years. I remember the M&B family day as a child, we went every year. My brother used to get given giant caterpillars which later turned into giant moths that lived in our garage!! Dad ended up managing the department for many years with Philip Frazer Betts as his deputy. There was also another Philip and a lady named Lesley - sorry that I can't remember the names of other members of the department. Dad covered all aspects of commercial photography from pack shots, to aerial crop spraying and portraits of CEOs. He and Mum also played tennis there I believe with Peter Smith and his wife Joan. Peter worked with Dad but went on to become a pilot. He was often employed by M&B to take Dad up to take aerial views - Dad has been a frustrated pilot all of his life but I think M&B offered him a lot of variety which kept him interested. Dad was a true professional and his work was technically excellent. I am blessed to still have Dad (94) and Mum (93) - they live in Upminster.
I am visiting with my Dad who worked at M&B for 50 years as their photographer. LMK if you'd like me to ask him any questions. He did a lot of photography in the dining room I remember and also played tennis at M&B.
That would be lovely. Would you be able to e-mail me at zoeschofield1@gmail and I can send you a list of questions. I was doing interviews but unfortunately COVID-19 has stopped this, Best regards, Zoe
I worked at M&B in the Research Block from 1968 to !973 and met my wife there. In addition, four members of my family worked for the company, including my aunt, Joan Burt, who ran the Executive Dining Room. Her husband, Tony, was the lead chauffeur until he retired.
Like many, I have very fond memories of my time there and the many people I worked with - it was a real pleasure to go to work. 'The Railway' pub across the road was our regular haunt every Friday lunchtime. My wife, Jill played for their netball team and I used to use the shooting range (.22 rifles).
Maybe slightly 'off topic' but May and Baker produced the faux tortoishell sheets (like spectacle frame material) that the bow makers W. E. Hill & Sons started to use for the frogs of their high quality violin (etc) bows after the real Hawksbill Turtle Shell became illegal to re-export. Unfortunately, after a short time the laminated material shrank slightly, and the carefully made silver or gold parts attached to it fell off...however it was such a good imitation that customs officials, understandably, took it for the real thing. Therefore nothing was gained, as Hill's main income was in bows made for export. The unreliability of the material was one of the causes of my bow making mentor, Arthur Bultitude, leaving his employment at Hill's in 1961 - he didn't want to put skilled work into 'plastic'!
Thanks for your comment Andrew. Yes indeed slightly off topic but does illustrate one of the diverse products manufactured and developed by M&B. Your information regarding violin bow making was interesting.
Specialist plastics were used in many applications including riot shields and a similar product is probably being used currently to manufacture the barriers and screens used in preventing spread of Covid 19 infection.
Alan.
Hi,

Maybe an unexpected contribution, as coming from the Netherlands, but I was wondering if anything is known about the manufacture of Uranium Nitrate chemical by "May and Baker Ltd" in the period of +/- 1905-1920? You undoubtedly wonder why I ask, but I am working for a secondary school in the Netherlands that has a history dating back to at least 1920. When I started working here, I did a full inventory of stock for the chemistry classes, and uncovered a tiny bottle of Uranium Nitrate ("Uranium Nitric. Puriss. cryst.") with its original seal still on it, and showing a decorative label of "May and Baker Ltd" with likely establishment dates of different world wide branches:

London 1831
London 1862?
London 1885
Paris 1866?
Paris 1887?
Adelaide 1887
Melbourne 1888
St. Louis 1904.

The label's design is almost, although not exactly, identical to the one you can see on this "May and Baker" page of the "Graces Guide to British Industrial History" (https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/May_and_Baker, see the "Chemical label" photo).

Since the most recent date of this label is "St. Louis 1904", this likely means the manufacture of this bottle predates the Dagenham site though.

It's date is also remarkable in the context of the history of use of such substances. Although the use of Uranium salts as colourant for ceramics seems to date back to Roman times according to the Wiki, and Uranium salts were used in a specific photographic process in the 19th century for creating Uranium prints, there appear to be few other uses at this early point in time (1905-1920), which slightly makes me wonder how it ended up in a school inventory of the time (although most likely related to the use as photo-chemical).

Of course, this find is slated for removal from our school inventory, but it would be nice to know a little bit more. I am currently in contact with a Dutch university that has a specialized lab for dealing with radioactive substances, and I actually think this little bottle is a kind of museum piece given its history and date, which they thought as well, so it may actually end up in a specific collection.

Marco
Hello Marco,
It's good to know the M&B name is still remembered, even in the Netherlands!
Hopefully one of the more knowledgeable contributors to this memory will be able to provide some information.
I do remember that most of the chemicals used in the labs in my secondary school in the 1960's had the M&B label.
Alan
Hi All
I was just reading some of the posting, brought back a lot of memories. I joined M&B in1966 straight from school as an intern. I was granted a day a week to study at a local college for my accounting degree. I was posted to the payroll dept initially and once a week I had to go to the local Lloyds bank in securites car to pick up the cash for the weeks wages and help prepare it. Later on Accounts receivable, Audit dept and finally the Cashiers office. Does anyone remember the manager Bill Reader and also Patricia Watson and Mr Potter who sadly lost his wife during the time I was there. Can anyone recall the two young girls who also worked in the dept. I can't remember their last names but their first names where Lynne and Helen. I do remember the canteen, it appeared to be constructed of concrete pillars with an oval roof, quite large. The food I recall was very good especially the lamb. I also recall a strong chemical odour at times, quite sour.
Hope this helps those looking for extra information.

Regards
Les Layton
Hello Les
Good to hear your memories. From what you say you were probably involved in preparing my brown paper wage packet and putting some much welcomed cash inside! That was of course back in the days when wages were paid weekly in actual money. I remember queuing up outside the wages office at a small window and giving my name and work number. A bit different to these days of monthly Direct Debits and a string of secret numbers and passwords just to find out whether you have been paid.
I remember the canteen being pretty much as you describe, with full height glass windows and doors along each side which opened up in the summer. At the entrance / exit end was a stage where M&B Theatre Club held regular shows and Santa appeared with his sack of presents each Christmas for the kids party.

Alan Wilson
I joined May and Baker around 1970 moving from Stoke on Trent to take a position in Research Admin. My wife also took a job in Accounts. I became friends with Peter Winter and through him became interested in psychology. I studied for MIPM and transferred to the Personnel Dept. The Personnel Manager was Mr Bristow and I also reported to John Wild, Head of Admin. John arranged a short term company loan to help me buy my first house for which my wife and I have always been very thankful. Fond memories.
My great grandfather Charles Bull worked at M&B as a chemical technician (1901 census). He was badly injured in an accident at work and retired. Anyone know what happened? Thanks!
My Grandfather, William Charles Titheradge, worked for M&B from (I think) straight after the 2nd world war until the mid 1950s. In 1963 he suffered a stroke (which proved fatal) at what I believe, from reading comments above, would have been the annual 'family day'. I was only 8 at the time and remember being told it was a 'sports day' or 'cricket match'. I would be so pleased if anyone seeing this comment had any recollection of him. I don't know what he did - I have always assumed it was some sort of sales position. His background was certainly not technical or scientific. He was trained as a church musician. Immediately before the war he had been Managing Director of the Bechstein Pianoforte Company. In the First World War he was in airships and in WWII in Barrage Balloons. None of this - as far as I can see - could have any direct relevance to the company?! I would be so grateful for any information which readers could provide.

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