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Worked on the 5th/6th floor of Central House for several years in the late 60s /early 70s for the Inland Revenue. The 7th floor was occupied by Commercial Union Insurance Company and the 3rd and 4th floors by Bradford Council. The building was largely glass and single glazed leading it to be far too hot in summer and too cold in winter. If you opened the windows it was very noisy from the ...see more
Mrs Minnie Wraight was my grandmotherf. When we were bombed out of our house in Deal in 1942, we stayed with her and my Grandfather, Walter Wraight, for a while then moved next door into the Old Bakery, where Teddy Weston was the baker. We stayed here until the end of the war when we were eventually able to return to our refurbished home in Deal where my father and uncle ran a taxi firm.
My Grandmother was ...see more
I used to ride my cycle from Blacksmiths Lane in South Hornchurch to fish in Berwick Ponds in late 50's and early 60's.
I have good memories of sitting on the bank on many a Sunday listening to "Round the Horn", "Billy Cotton's Band Show" and "Hancock's Half Hour" playing on my little battery transistor radio, drinking hot Bovril from my flask and dipping my cheese sandwiches in - ugh! Sometimes the ...see more
Was a patient for six weeks in summer of 1966. World cup celebration times (England won it that year) and sunshine though I was sad then.
An amazing mix of patients; from young people (including me) to professional people, business and pilots. Met some very pleasant female patients there also. But never kept in contact, pity as shared experience would have been supportive. Great Doctors; mine was Dr Aminoff: I ...see more
Spent two holidays in Tenby around 1955/6 mornings spent on the beach. Afternoon spent exploring usually by bus. No car then. We came down from Cheshire on the train. The journey being part of the holiday. Stayed in board and lodging at Gibraltar Terrace. Think the landlady was Swiss. She made my sister and I a beautiful rabbit jelly complete with jelly grass. Can recall playing two ball against the house wall. My mum and dad ...see more
I went to Stanhope castle from 1975 to 1977. I do understand that there was a lot of physical abuse that happened. It happened to me too. I am trying to get to the truth about Stanhope castle.
a lot has been covered up which I am trying to uncover. Doing this I am never going to give up I am fighting for the truth no matter how long it takes I will keep searching until I get it.
This is what I have got ...see more
Hello all
My mum Doreen Ashton (coleman)
Came second in this compertion 1964
I was a 1 year old, and 1 of three girls at the time
My mum was always glamerous and beautifull
Does anyone recal these contests ?
I am searching for perhaps in the local paper at the time, and pictures,
Thank you
Lesley
Does anyone remember the name of this hotel. I stayed there when I was doing a short course for a bank in 1967? Anyone remember staying there then. It had a very fancy name. I was a bit home sick as it was the first time I had gone away on my own from home for work. It was in the winter months. I would love to go back there but I am not sure if the hotel is still there? The ...see more
hi, as a child I lived in the prefabs on Rye Hill Park, now flats. I remember the Rossi ice cream horse and cart that used to stop at the bottom of the hill and lemon ice was my favourite. The park was our playground and my brother fell in the stream on numerous occasions, much to my mum’s horror. We had a white westie called Snowy who used to chase the postman.
The prefabs were lovely and everybody in our ...see more
I attended Hounslow Heath Infants and then HH Primary School in the fifties. Mr Such was our headmaster and I remember Mr Gilbert as my class teacher who also ran the school soccer team, of which I was a member. I also played for Heston & Isleworth and Middlesex as a junior whilst attending HHPS. I was a football tragic! I don't remember much about my classmates. There was one boy named Alan Bartlett who was a good ...see more
My memory and the memory of my 2 sisters was horrendous, it was like consentration camp. They would force you to eat dinners you did not like and if you didn't eat it you would be made to sit all night on the floor no covers nothing. My mother would send clothing and food parcels and we would never get them. There is a lot more we went through and still have nightmares of what happened. I will write more when ...see more
My Great Grandmother had two brothers who lived in Newington or Walworth, South London. This would be the area between Camberwell and Kennington to the South and The Elephant and Castle and The Borough, Southwark to the North. They were born around 1843, and lived around that area till the after 1911. They married three of Joshua Joseph Johnson's daughters, ...see more
Hi, my name was Christine Sanderson and I lived in Rydal Ave from1963. Before that on Pembertons Bank. My dad Jack Sanderson, was passionate about the village, and wrote 10 local history books about Easington Lane. He also had dozens of photographs. There is now a display of photographs in ELCAP, ( old Welfare) in the Brickgarth. Well worth a visit.
I lived in Gardenia road as a child and my father used to go here on a Thursday night as they had some sort of gun club. a relic from the war I think. They also always had a fish stall on a Sunday Lunch time . Winkles and shrimps. I also had a Saturday job in the snack bar in the pool one Summer I couldn’t have been very old, I was there with the Webb girls from Leighton Road. How the time has flown.
My Great Grandmother had two brothers who lived in Newington or Walworth, South London. This would be the area between Camberwell and Kennington to the South and The Elephant and Castle and The Borough, Southwark to the North.
I had a part-time job at this Petrol Station in 1969 when I secured a job in Canada and left England, never to permanently return. I was working full-time in Portsmouth Dockyard at the time, but this station provided much needed spare cash. My first car was an Austin A35 (1956 vintage I think) and this station provided me with free oil. Whenever we served a can of oil to a customer, we nicked the edge of the can ...see more
Every year dad would take me and my 4 sisters and 3 brothers to merebrook caravan park for the whole duration of the 6 week summer holidays. We absolutely loved it. We made loads of friends down there. Can anyone remember us. Wally and Chris (mum and dad) Annette julie mandy Dianne Ingrid (me and my sisters) Martin geoff Keith (brothers). We travelled in a pale blue Bedford van with cartoon drawings on the back doors. It was our second home. 1970 s we were there.
I started school at Black Lake in 1951 just as I turned 5.. Cannot see how the school I remember fitted on the piece of land that is a garden and small road now. Thirty years later went to work at A.P. Factory across the road from the school as a cook..
I was born here at 2 Ermine St which was a Police house. My father was PC to the community to 1966 when he was transferred to Grantchester to serve as village Bobby.
Dolly Landen was the duty delivery nurse on 27.11.59 the date of my birth.
I attended the local Sunday school.. a tiny hut. I also attended the local junior school under Mrs Sadler. Fond beginnings fond memories.
I use to be there in 1964. My name is Jacqueline beckett then . I remember a girl next to me name ugen and a boy name michael.he was quite tall. And a small boy name lesley he had red hair .he was my mate as well .anymore out there please contact I'd love to chat with
Does anyone remember the Arndale market when it first opened and the first several years?if you went in the market entrance opposite where peackocks is now,turn immediate right and walk straight on,on your right there was a stall which sold hair products,the man that owned it was tall and had a deep voice,there was a stall which sold teddy boy clothes and had drape jackets hanging up,a scottish lady that had a badge ...see more
Started school in Daviot primary aged nearly six in 1958. Only there a short time. My brother who was six years older was also there. My amity lived in an old house a few miles away and my mum took me to school on a bicycle. Dad worked as a baker delivering from a van. Can't remember the name of the shop. I have never been back but intend to go in the near future. I ...see more
Hi
I have just read the article "memories of St. Peter's and Broadstairs" by Ronald Taylor, written in 2012.
His memories of his childhood in St Peter's could have been mine, I remember everything he mentions including my brothers making go karts to go down Joss Bay hill.
I, like his family still live here but sadly while some of it has not changed there are a lot more houses and a lot less open ...see more
I am struggling to find much about this highly-respected doctor who lent his name to Deri Park - once home to Rainham Town football club. I know that in the 1950's he had a surgery in Rainham (Wennington Road?) and another in Blacksmiths Lane, South Hornchurch and that he was a school governor at Whybridge School.
I was told by my parents that he saved my life as an infant and almost ended it several years later when I ran across the road in front of his expensive sports car!
Alan Wilson
Does anyone remember the petrol station being built on the corner of Mill Road where it joins Purfleet Road around 1969/1970. An Esso station now I think, but then it was ABCO - (with a big orange and black triangular logo)
I worked for Alan Pond Group at the time. The company was a pioneer in introducing self-service petrol stations and I was given the task of getting this sparkling new site up and running and help ...see more
I remember the Button bros.shop in Luton,I think it was just menswear but it was expensive posh clothing and they were tailors also I think.My dad got a suit in there and we went to the counter to pay.The shop assistant wrote a receipt on carbon paper,my dad paid him the money he gave my dad one copy of the receipt and the other copy he put it in some kind of small recepticle with the money and snapped the lid shut,he then ...see more
I attended this school from about 1952 through 1956 completing my 11 Plus before moving on to Cowplain Boys School. We lived in Potwell, where my father was Chauffeur Gardener for the Dr. Eden family in (the amazing to me) Potwell House. We lived in a rather primitive tithe cottage that has since been demolished. The Ware family of Pigeon House Farm drove us to school in their Austin Seven (I think) ...see more
It's a shame that there are no memories of South Hornchurch yet - so let me be the first.
I lived in Blacksmiths Lane from birth in 1947 until I married in 1973, but retained close links as I was also the local "Man from the Pru" (Insurance Agent) for a few years. I went to Whybridge School and then Brittons having failed the 11 plus exam.
The premises now occupied by a cleaning company at ...see more
In about 1964 I belonged to Marley Motorcycle Club which l think was based at Marley school in Dagenham. The club used an old barn at Stubbers in Ockendon to "hang out". We had a basic kitchen, a few old sofas and parked the motorbikes right outside. We had some great times, barbeques and rides out to be track marshalls at the Bantam Owners club races at Snetterton in Norfolk and motorcycle racing at Crystal ...see more
I lived at the Carrow at the same time as Don Colley. I think his wife was Pam and daughters Catherine and Cassie. My little girl was Colleen. It was a wonderful place to live. We were so thrilled because after living in a small terrace house in Banbury with no central heat, the central heating system at the Carrow was like winning the lottery! I look back and realize that I didn’t take the time to ...see more
My name is Richard Chivers and I was born in 1961 at Sycamore Close off Park Avenue Bushey, my first school was Highwood junior my teacher was Mrs Brickhill, funny how you can remember someone's name over 50 years ago. My mates I used to play with where my neighbour Andy Mills, last known to be living in New Zealand, and Gordon Fallon. I bumped into him up in Norfolk not so long go. we would play in the golf ...see more
1942-1945 I , Nancy Callachan was sent there by Dr Cuthbert DUNDEE because I had asthma and
Bronchitis and lived in the slums of Likybank Road Dundee.My father Gorge Hendry Callachan was in France Ww11 and .my mother Annie Burnett stayed home with my 4 brothers in a 2 room tenement house iLilybank Road Dundee.
We were well cared for .School half day by 2 teachers Misses Duncan who lived ...see more
My father bought Gills garage in 1961 from the Berry family and we lived there until 1975 when it was bought by Bobby Howes and my dad retired.I have any very happy memories of living in and have to say I loved every minute.godmanchester was a very close knit community then and everyone knew everyone else. It really is a delight to see photographs from those days.
My father nick nichol of carefree travel cheshunt used to organise film shows at wolsey hall every year.he showed cine films of hotels and resorts he visited to help people choose their next holiday destination. And he gave out tasters of Spanish sangria.
We used to deliver sidecars and boats made at paddy ravens to pride and Clark stockwell London.
Trying to find my father's family. Reg as living here 1936.
Family name KIRK. William j.
I lived in Saxbys Garden Cottage in 1963 and worked in what was then called Gordon House - a Care Home. My friend Jo and I were there for 6 months only. It was while I was working there that I found out Gordon House was once called Gainsford House and when I last drove to the village I saw it is once again holding its rightful name. That means a lot to me as my mother was Frances Gainsford, born in New Zealand of ...see more
Born in plantation street , went to the infants school and then wellington school and bedwellty grammar. Moved to nursery crescent and then to garden city . Loved those days just hanging out with friends , camping ,playing footie , couple of those friends passed away now but always remembered . Hello to anyone I knew and bothered with then hope you are well and living ...see more
I moved to St Andrews Avenue from a prefab in Harold Wood with my parents and my baby sister when I was 9. I went to Dunningford school which was really handy as our house backed on to the pathway that led to the school so I could nip over the fence if I was late. I remember Mr Morgan as one of the teachers there a portly Welsh man who used to shout at us but I liked him anyway. I then went to Maylands ...see more
I remember many families that stayed in Orchard Terrace
Mr and Mrs Swan - I am married to Doreen their Grand Daughter
Me and Mrs Horne, Lilly, Maureen and Sandy
Mr and Mrs Mewhorter
Mr and Mrs Sloan
Mr and Mrs Quinn
Mr and Mrs Barclay
I had a brilliant time growing up in te area around Kilbagie. My parents were Mr and Mrs Halbert No8, No9 and No7
What was the name of the hardware store in Clare road back in th 60s?
The May and Baker factory, close to the railway station at Dagenham East was once one of the largest factories in the area. The company was best known for developing the drug quinine to combat malaria, often simply referred to as M&B tablets. It manufactured and distributed all sorts of chemicals, agrochemicals and pharmaceuticals such as: anti-histamines for allergies, barbiturates for sedatives, ...see more
I attended Ayr Academy when it was a primary school but left at the end of P.4 when that department closed. But I returned in 1963 after passing the eleven plus, much to my primary school teacher's surprise. So many memories of school. Wandering around between classes in the first year following the pretty senior girls. We all had a thing for Rosie. Playing rugby for the first two years there for the midgets. A team made up of ...see more
I was born in Brook Street in the end of terrace house next to Rooksby's, the butchers shop at the junction of Horsa Road, and lived there until I was married at the age of 21. My aunt (Elizabeth) Cis Luck and uncle Percival lived next door. Cis was my fathers sister. Our house was opposite the Duchess of Kent pub which if my memory serves me right was owned by Bill Whiltshire. I think he ...see more
I worked in SNOB for 7 years full time and a couple part time . Loved it , have a few photographs, and still in contact with 3 of the girls ( well we are in our 60s now 😬 . Great memories , loved all the clothes, spent most of my wages on just clothes in those days 🎀 .My name was Jenni Hitchcock then married and became Furnell . I remember being in contact with Portsmouth staff ,to send stock too and from each of the boutiques 👍🥰
The shoe shop only closed in 2016 so it was a feature of the Gt Whyte for more than 50 years.
Great picture, however it's of Lascelles Park not Upton Park.
Many thanks for the information - our Archivist has now updated our database, Ed.
When I was a kid, in the early 50's I lived in Tilehurst, and an excursion on our bikes was to ride to Sulham Woods, look for rabbits, adders and pick bluebells. The best part was to go down to Tidmarsh and sit in the stocks and pretend to be poor peasants. I can't find any history of the pillory now, but it is clear in my mind, as was the ford we crossed on our bikes in the road. Long time ago, but still live in my nostalgic haze!
i was at etton pasturses school 1978-1984 there not alot i remember about that school but i remember mr bunn pe teacher and my name is erich green
My name is William ( Bill) Pickering .I was born 28.9.1942. and lived at No.17 Davison Terrace Sacriston. I attended Sacriston Modern School. I attended St.Peters Church and I was in the Choir for a while. I also was a member of the Boys Brigade in Sacriston. I have many Happy Memories of my life in Sacriston and would love to share them. Best Wishes to anyone that knows me.
As a student at Southend High School for Girls in the 1960's, I remember our swimming lessons at the Westcliffe Swimming Pool - and I hated them! Unlike today, the water was cold and our instructors showed little empathy to those of us who were frightened of the water. Luckily, I learned to swim as an adult which has stood me in good stead for my life in Australia!
We used to visit Maggie Cook's on our way home from school if we were lucky enough to have been given tuppence
I also remember this tower as my Great grandmother, Elizabeth Welham lived under the tower when I was a boy. This would be in the late 1940's/ 1950's. The door to her rooms was just inside the archway and you would take one step down into a small kitchen. It was very dark inside, but homely as granny always cooked cinnamon cake which gave off a lovely smell. She made us lemonade made from sherbet. A few ...see more
I was shocked and saddened when looking on Google Street view recently to find the M&B factory gone, with just a few of the old roadways and outlines of buildings left as testament to the years of work, sounds and smells that used to be.
My father Stan Wilson worked as a pipefitter/welder in the engineering department from about 1954 until he retired in 1979. He helped to ...see more
Born 1946, Wilmington gdns. Memories abound of my sister as carnival queen, going to the fair and winning goldfish that always died. Fishing for tiddlers in the park. Even had a stranger help me to tell the time in the park, harmless but would be classed as something different now. I remember getting in to watch the football under the fencing. Mum and dad running the cubs and scouts and some wonderful old buildings. ...see more
My father Stan Wilson grew up in a cottage on the marshes at West Thurrock where his father was the resident engineer for the adjacent Pumping Station (Sewage?).
The 1939 census shows the family comprised Robert Wilson and his wife Rosa Wilson (nee Crates) and 4 children Bob, Rose, Stan (my father) and Andrew. Shortly after the war the family left the cottage.
It was still ...see more
I was supposed to have been born at the Green.. ended up being at Tynemouth... So I missed out on a commemorative silver spoon given to kids born in wallsend on the day the Queen Mother visited Wallsend.. 1.10.1954.. My family lived at 18.Charles St. The Cotcher's.. my nanna Annie. Uncles Bob, Joe, Dad..Jimmy.. Mam Thelma.. I have memories of Bob and I going down Davy bank.. me in a pram barra..picking up driftwood ...see more
My ggg grandfather, Robert Skelton, farmed here 1825 - 1838. In his early days there he also looked after the duck decoy at Stocks Hall. My gt grandfather, John Skelton, was born at Modney Hall Farm in 1827.
There were the Cardricks who lived at the top of Tilehurst Lane and Terrace Road and were a family of carpenters. Then there were the Carpenters who had the garage near the Standard Corner in Terrace Road and the Timms with the other garage and breakers yard in Terrace Road(now South) . The Dennis family of lawn-mower and lorry fame on the corner of Forest Road and Wicks Green, together with ...see more
I was born in Southlands hospital in 1932.
In 1935 I moved into 14 West Road Fishersgate and (when old enough)went to Fishersgate Infant school.
In 1943 we moved into 21 Fishersgate Terrace, which at that time was on the corner of Laylands Road, it was demolished to clear the way for the rebuilding of Fishersgate.
I well remember playing down the canal bank and along the canal shore.
Before ...see more
Hi Laura, Is your cottage to the right of the passage way? If so, that was my first
ever property. I bought it in 1976 for about £8000.
Nigel
My name is Robert Mellor , my grandfather was Percival Thomas Mellor and as a young boy I used to be taken to my grandfathers relatives at Uttoxeter. We visited two farms there which were joined together, both were dairy farms the top farm was run by a man who I called uncle Tom and the bottom by a woman I called aunt Selena, she had six sons if I remember correctly.
My grand father came tp Ripley Before ...see more
I was at Cedar House from 1963 to 1968 I was one of the girls to go onto the school in Rutland but for the life of me can't remember what it was called. I have very different views on Cedar House some very happy and fun others not so much. I remember Mrs Button, her big fur coats and her wigs, I remember being in the main house and being in the dorm next to her room. The sick room being next to the stairs that us ...see more
Just outside the entrance of the Odeon was a Police phone box (Tardis) you can just about see it.
I too remember the stepping stones, just past them was a kind of a cave.
The picture shows the chequers tiles. There was a bit of a hill behind them, we used to rolly-poly down the hill. My sisters would Putt on the putting green or play tennis. There was a little shop where you coud get tea and bags of Smiths Crisps with a little Blue bag of salt.
On the right of the picture is Eltham Corn Stores, a Pet shop. My mother worked there for many years.
Next door there was a Chinese restaurant 'The Three Yen' run by a Chinese lady who claimed to be Scottish! We knew her as Auntie.
Remember Guinea gap baths in 60s.Dick took my swimming lessons and taught me to swim.Drink of bovril afterwards from vending machine!!
Used to also play outside the baths sliding down grassy hill on cardboard.Then to the cake shop and then walk home to Lea road.Happy days!!As a kid you could go and play anywhere without fear and just have fun.
My name doesn't realy matter however I was born in King Edward road in 1973 !, the oval and claxey Rock was my playground ,,,l had a lot of good mates and relatives in and around the oval we would play curbs , tiggy , hidey , with the likes of the barrellas the dorrans, kemp, qwallies, the dobsons , good times ...everybody had the same , People would sit on there doorsteps till all hours .Sheila batty would be ...see more
I lived in St Richards road and was evacuated to Allerton Yorkshire during the war. When we returned I was 12 1/2 yrs old but soon made friends at Southwick girls school and had a boyfriend Peter Morris, is he still around? I am 85yrs now and often wonder. My name then was Mavis Schooley so if there is any.one out there that remembers don’t hesitate to get in touch. The best years of my life was at here and the ...see more
In 1901 an ancestor of mine was lodging and working as a shop assistant at a bakers and confectioners shop in Cheap St, Sherborne. Does snyone know where on the the shop might have been located? Which number wd it be?
My wifes grandad and uncle where school caretakers her cousin still lives opposite the chapel We lived in Springtwell for years
My name is Alan Creek and I grew up at number 208 Carmelite Rd. It was a brand new council house and we move there in 1946. My first school was Pinner National which was a stop gap because the new Chantry Juniors was still under construction. Eventually it was completed and the first intake was transferred to Chantry Juniors. During my time at Chantry I played in the football team as Goal Keeper. Other members of the ...see more
Hi looking for information on my GGGG Grandfather William Phelps b 1789 Amroth, Pembrokeshire, Wales. His wife Ann Davies b 1793 her father Daniel Davies and his wife Jane. My GGG Daniel Alexander Phelps married Sophia Amelia Jones or Johns in 1858 Merthyr Tydfil. They moved to Queensland Australia. Would love some history of the village that was around the time when the Phelps family was there that ...see more
My name is Derek and we moved to boxted road from London when I was 2 years old.looking at the old photos of Hemel has stirred so many very happy memories.i used to love going to see Santa in the grotto upstairs in the co- op. And in the winter sitting in the co- op cafe drinking a bottle of coke ,eating a ham sandwich and watching the ducks trying to land on the frozen water of the water gardens.
Don't recognise the place now thank goodness the pics are still around.
Memories of a Delivery Boy 50/60s
We moved onto the Beavers Lane Estate in 1951 as it was being built. Our first home was in the Chester Road flats with kids in every flat we soon had a large group of friends, Richard Dave Rosie Carole and Ian and Dave King’s (Entertainer) nephew opposite. The heart of the estate was the Parade of shops and the phone box opposite where you called the doctor , ambulance, ...see more
Unfortunately, I have never stayed at the beautiful Harrow.
But I'm very interested in Harrow because I'm looking for a house where the German filmdirector and producer Frederick (Friedrich) Zelnik and his wife, the actress Lya Mara, lived. They probably built their own house in Harrow in 1936. I have taken this from the "Reports oft the Town Planning Committee" of December 3, 1935. Under "Name ...see more
My dad was in Stanhope castle when he was 11 so I'm sure from 1975. He's told me about the place and it knocks me sick. I'm just wondering if there's anyone on here that remembers him. He's called Arthur Addison and he's from Newcastle. Please get intouch my email is amelia.addison1993@icloud.com
I was born at my Nan and granddad's house in Three Firs Way, my mum and dad then moved to Omer's Rise when I was one and then we got a house back in Three Firs Way when I was two. I loved growing up there. I went to Bland school then Garlands and last but not least Willink.. We never had to worry about going over to the woods and enjoying going outside with our mates. We were told to be in for tea and then ...see more
Does anyone recall the Bavin families please?